Odin Saves (and takes half damage)

Considering how obvious the flaws are in Pascal’s Wager, it makes one wonder what Pascal was drinking when he came up with it. Especially when all it takes is a couple of cectic.com cartoons to dismantle the whole concept…

… and that’s why I worship Aphrodite and Dionysus.

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~ by Planetologist on September 25, 2008.

8 Responses to “Odin Saves (and takes half damage)”

  1. That varies a lot by individual. All that’s required to be an ‘atheist’ is lack of belief in a god or gods. Most people today are atheists with respect to Zeus, Minerva, Thor, Marduk, Cthulhu or any other gods from history or modern literature. I – and most ‘atheists’ as the word is used commonly today – simply include Jehovah, Yahweh and Allah in the same file with every other giant imaginary friend that people used to believe in.

    No affirmative belief in the non-existence of a god or gods is necessary in atheism, though some (including me) take that position. I personally think there are no gods, in the sense of conscious, immortal beings whose powers supersede physics, and who are obsessively interested in lording it over humanity. There’s simply no evidence for that model.

  2. ok, i was just wondering if you (or any of the “atheist activists” visiting this blog) explicitly denies the existence of God, or believes in the existence but follows a strange “anti-God” ideology or its just the religions ‘as social groups’ and certain attitudes of some(!) religous people thet you have problem with.

  3. Which guys? I can’t speak for anyone else, but yes, I am completely opposed to religion in any forms whatsoever. Of course people can believe what they want in their private minds or social clubs, but they have exactly zero right to impose their beliefs on me through force of law. Religion is tax-exempt psychosis.

    If someone has an idea for public policy, let that idea be hashed out critically and discarded if it cannot be supported with independent, verifiable, reproducible evidence.

  4. Which guys? I can’t speak for anyone else, but yes, I am completely opposed to religion in any forms whatsoever. Of course people can believe what they want in their private minds or social clubs, but they have exactly zero right to impose their beliefs on me through force of law. Religion is tax-exempt psychosis.

    If someone has an idea for public policy, let that idea be hashed out critically and discarded if it cannot be supported with independent, verifiable, reproducible evidence.

  5. i think you guys are not atheist, but anti-religionist. is that right?

  6. No, because you see, they have the right religion. When you are on the inside, it is so obviously the right one. How can anyone not see that we have the truth? Or, as a friend of mine said, to one of the peas in the pod, the whole world is green.

    So, because you have the obvious and irrefutable truth, the rest of the world breaks down into those people who (probably because they want to have teh butt seks) reject the clear truth you are presenting them, and those people who see the light of truth.

    The wager makes sense inside that worldview, because once you have shown someone how amazingly true your belief system is, and the astonishing rewards awaiting those who follow it, then of course you only have two real choices.

    And the answer to “why is my religion smaller than that other religion” is “Well, Jesus said the road to salvation would be narrow, and the road to destruction wide.”

  7. I wonder if it would help to point out to them that a strict application of Pascal’s Wager could be formulated to advise belief in the most populous world religion, based on an assumption that popularity equates with a higher probability of winning the wager.

    According to the Wikipedia consensus, Christianity is the largest single religion in terms of population, at roughly 33% of humans ascribing to it. So far, so good. But the largest single denomination of Christianity is Catholicism. The safest bet, given the assumptions, would seem to go with the Pope… which I imagine is not something a Protestant fundamentalist would enjoy hearing…

  8. Wow, sci fi references, and now a D&D gag? You nerd cred is strong.

    As a recovered fundamentalist, I can honestly say that the people who spout this trash actually believe it. When I was banging on people’s doors, I honestly saw a dichotomy here.

    Fortunately, that is no longer the case, but for those still trapped in the belief system, it really always does boil down to “Those who agree with me/everyone else.”

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